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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Mar 25, 2004 20:49:46 GMT -5
what advantages ?
- the company has the ability to convince ppl to drink their brand rather than a competitors
- alcohol companies provide advertising dollars to tv
- alcohol companies provide sponsorship dollars to various events (which are televised on tv)
- my rights to view information/entertainment/whatever arent infringed.
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Post by Warrior124 on Mar 25, 2004 20:51:55 GMT -5
Pashy, if you love your family then there is no other choice than to take care of them. As far as it being an emotional plea to work on peoples feelings, and all I wasn't trying to do that at all. What I told is just what happened in my life, and I wasn't trying to make you, or anyone else feel guilty, and all. However, there are too many people in the world nowadays that makes too many bad choices, because they never take the time to think of what making that kind of decision means for their future, and the future of others. As far as I'm concerned anyone who is a parent has given up most of "their" rights. Their responsibilities are to their children, then. This means that whenever you make a decision it should never be made just for you, but your children, as well. I don't mean to upset anyone here, but raising a child measn that you will have to give up what you want, and focus on the needs of your child. You cannot do that when you are six feet under, neither. If you love your child then try your best to be there for him/her/them in every step of their lives. Your lungs were meant to take in oxygen. They were never meant to take in any other chemicals especially those found in cigarettes. Whether you get lung cancer or not doesn't matter. It still affects other aspects of your health way more than most anything else, and yes even more so than alchohol. At least alchohol is good for your heart if taken moderately. Smoking isn't good for anything at all, but putting a death sentence on the one who smokes. If this makes anyone feel guilty, then good. At least the one who feels guilty still has a concience.
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 20:53:39 GMT -5
oh, can i just say there's absolutely nothing wrong with alcohol, if people drink and drive, that is their choice and their choice only, alcohol doesn't convince them to drive, they do. a person can simply call a taxi, but the choice is theirs
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Post by nita on Mar 25, 2004 20:56:19 GMT -5
Nita, try leaving your house and avoid smoke/pollution
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I am not even going to waste my time reading your post until you ppl get it through your head what I am saying. Pollution from industries and cars was not made to get you wasted. Drinking was made to drink and drinking get's you wasted...that is WHAT the booze does...ppl drink to get drunk and sometimes others are sacrificed 'BY a PRODUCT that IS intended to get you WASTED which in return causes ppl to die when you are not in your right mind'.
Yal are comparing ordinary every day things that kill some ppl to drinking which is designed and made to put you in the state to get you drunk which in return happens to make you not give a crap what happens. All you think about is how good it feels to be on cloud nine floating. And when other ppl are sacrificed cause of your pleasures to get wasted it isn't fair to the innocent ppl. WHY?? Cause Booze is made for getting you drunk yet they don't care and advertise it anyways....to sale a product that messes you up in a responsive way as much as drinking does....them ads reach ppl from all over the world... pollution from industries and cars ( will say it again) was not intended to make you get rosygardenfaced and ill responsive in decisions.
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 20:59:50 GMT -5
biggest load of bs ive seen, binge drinking gets you drunk, there are BELIEVE IT OR NOT some people who have 1 or 2 drinks, and the fact that you only read what you want to hear is ignorant
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Post by nita on Mar 25, 2004 21:03:24 GMT -5
Yes some ppl drink only one or two .. that is true. I didn't say it wasn't. But the whole intention of beer is for ppl to drink and for the ones that get drunk on it put other ppl at risk when they drink cause of the choices they make and if there was not ads maybe it would not reach as many ppl.
Btw, I wanted to know what do YOU get out of ads from booze not the company. Other then your right to view it pashy... what purpose does it serve to see a beer ad? personally?
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 21:10:24 GMT -5
Yes some ppl drink only one or two .. that is true. I didn't say it wasn't. But the whole intention of beer is for ppl to drink and for the ones that get drunk on it put other ppl at risk when they drink cause of the choices they make and if there was not ads maybe it would not reach as many ppl. Again, it is the public's choice if they drink or not, no one is forcing them to drink or drive as I said. The option is there for me to buy a gun, but do I? no, it takes common sense nita, people are born and raised different. I dont go out drinking and then go rape a girl, its funny how people always blame something else (ie. alcohol) but never themselves. If I was to go out, drink andd then go rape a girl, why is it that people always blame the alcohol? Alcohol doesn't talk to you or tell you what to do, its a choice you make, just like it is to go and drink and drive. People choose whether to have 1 or 2 drinks, or to drink more, But the choice is THEIRS, not the choice of an alcohol company. People always seem to put the blame to everything but themselves and forget that everyone is different. I'm not a violent person when I'm drunk, sure maybe I do things differently if I've had my limit, its called having a good time, people who get off by doing things what they see is 'right by god' must have pretty boring lives.
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Post by nita on Mar 25, 2004 21:15:57 GMT -5
Still waiting for reasons of how personally your at a advantage from ads?
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 21:22:19 GMT -5
It's so I can see what's on the market without getting of my a*s and going into the shop to look Advertising always makes competitors go cheaper in prices It pays for TV It pays for alot of websites It funds events as pashy said It's their right to advertise and for me to see if I like the price of the product Advertising is good for last minute shopping It sometimes leads into cheap coupons in brochures or in the newspaper I don't have to convince you because I have my own reasons for why I like it
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Mar 25, 2004 21:24:30 GMT -5
can you not read ?? [/i][/color]
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Post by Alexander on Mar 25, 2004 21:26:07 GMT -5
If I was to go out, drink andd then go rape a girl, why is it that people always blame the alcohol? Alcohol doesn't talk to you or tell you what to do, its a choice you make, just like it is to go and drink and drive. if you rape someone when your drunk it is the fault of the alcohol, otherwise why didnt you rape the person while you were free of alcohol, its a known fact alcohol diminishes brain cells and can alter the brains function to work during the period of being drunk, therefore its because of the drink that this alternate thing has occured.
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Post by nita on Mar 25, 2004 21:26:23 GMT -5
If there was not ads would you still go out and buy it?
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 21:29:13 GMT -5
Alex, for once say what you believe and not 'facts'. You say 'facts' all the time but for all we know it may be total BS.
And nita, yes, but advertising has it's purpose for making you recognise a product, so you can go straight into a shop and ask for it without spending 10/20 minutes looking around at other products and stumbling accross it.
Advertising fits in with the term 'you gotta spend money to make money'
Surely anyone can see why people advertise
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Post by Alexander on Mar 25, 2004 21:29:27 GMT -5
and by the way, not all people realise when they have had too much to drink, so they are not physically able to make an appropriate choice because the alcohol has nulled their sences.
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Post by overdose on Mar 25, 2004 21:32:01 GMT -5
Take a friend who doesn't drink then, and make them take you home when you've had enough. Again, people blaming the alcohol
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