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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 13, 2004 21:50:45 GMT -5
read this scenario.....
every country in the world, takes on new laws regarding organ donation. basically, when a person dies their organs are harvested, tested for compatibility with sick patients and used for ppl waiting on transplants. all organs that can be harvested are - corneas, heart, lungs, kidneys, liver etc....
would you find yourself emphatically arguing against this new legislation and if so why ?
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would you praise the legislation and congratulate the legislators and if so why ?
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Post by Alexander on Apr 14, 2004 7:44:16 GMT -5
organ donation of dead people is justified and right, anyone who disagrees with organs from a dead person or dead child not being allowed to be used is being selfish, with the large numbers of people who die in this world the amount of lives it could save are very heavily in favour of using dead peoples organs, so what if the person didnt want their organs to be used, thats like watching people get murdered and refusing to help them, for a start the dead person has no use for their body parts and they will soon rot in the ground so the parts that could have been used will end up being wasted and just sent back to mother nature, the people have no use for them later on in life well in the afterlife anway you dont need organs to get into heaven / summerlands / reincarnation / anywhere else u go when u die , no need not to give them away
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Post by Webagent on Apr 14, 2004 10:06:17 GMT -5
I think the Christian (and maybe others) belief is your body has to be in one piece because of the ressurection, so if I'm not mistaken these people would always want to be burried and not cremated, so I dont think they would want missing organs.
I think you would have to given your approval in a donor organ paper statement first before "all organs can be harvested"
There was a plan that everyones organs would be available for donation after death unless you explicitly told not, this plan was never accepted, perhaps in future, now you have to explicitly agree.
I am not a donor just because I'm afraid what doctors would do in a life death situation in a scary country might I happen to end up in a situation like that, or maybe even our own country.. organs are worth alot, some people sell their second kidney in poor countries and some people are actually kidnapped and robbed of an organ.. I dont know what temptations there are for doctors when you are lying on the table in allmost death situation, you know corruption is everywhere.
I do think that when you are in need of an organ and were never a donator you shouldnt receive, to give is to get and not giving is not getting.. that would be a good motivation for people to become donor, I might become organ donator later in life, but the corruption thought is scary lol.
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Post by dagger on Apr 14, 2004 10:43:27 GMT -5
i seriously have already listed myself but so has my mother even though i don't want her doing it. i'm willing i just dont want her doing it to
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Post by Cypher on Apr 14, 2004 12:20:41 GMT -5
Organ Donation should be strictly DONATED for obvious religious/cultural reasons. there has been talk in the uk about everyone being automatically organ donors with the option of not being one instead of the way it is now (have to choose to be an organ donor). i think thats a good idea... as long as its clear and easy to make yourself not an organ donor. if someone can use my body parts after i have died to keep someone alive then sure they can have them... unless its george best . btw i have an organ donor card in my wallet
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 14, 2004 12:53:27 GMT -5
well.....i think organ donation is wonderful...and if i was dead i wouldnt mind ppl ripping things outta me to use to save or prolong others lives.
but i would still argue against new legislation to that effect.
basically because i think it's a persons right, even in death, to have their body treated/disposed of how they want it, not necessarily how their families or medical practioners want to.
a lot of cultures would not approve and a lot of religions too. as i think thats a basic right, to choose ones religion i think it would be wrong to impose something on someone if it was against what they wanted.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 14, 2004 13:19:44 GMT -5
I think the Christian (and maybe others) belief is your body has to be in one piece because of the ressurection christians believe in reincarnation then?
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Post by Webagent on Apr 14, 2004 13:32:04 GMT -5
didnt we just selebrate the ressurection of Jesus? (easter)
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 15, 2004 2:55:07 GMT -5
you mightve web lol....dont think alex did lol
back onto donation...
i am a bit freaked about this sorta stuff. mainly cos i hate hospitals, doctors, needles and all things related to it.
i am not listed as an organ donor. however, i have told my family and close friends that if anything was to happen to me - they can feel secure in making the decision to offer my organs and know i am okay with it.
the reason i am not listed as one, is cos i have this paranoid fear that doctors wont try and save me as much as possible - silly i know
not that i think anyone would want my organs.
they are in a shocking state of affairs ! ! ! LOL
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Post by Alexander on Apr 15, 2004 7:08:50 GMT -5
ive been thinking about it but isnt the whole idea of cultural beliefs about what will happen to you after you die, surely if they use your organs once you have died you will already have been judged or sent wherever and you will have no further usage for your mortal coil?
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Post by GAME-OVER on Apr 17, 2004 8:52:46 GMT -5
/me thinks people who have been to Amsterdam too many times don't have any usefull organs left.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 17, 2004 8:56:07 GMT -5
speaking from experience game?
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Post by GAME-OVER on Apr 17, 2004 9:21:23 GMT -5
no comment ;D
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Post by Alexander on Apr 18, 2004 5:28:10 GMT -5
hmmm but what about in opperations if someone needed an opperation to save their life and u were their parent and due to religious reasons they didnt want blood donations / organ donations, you would let your kid die cause of religious beliefs?
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Post by GAME-OVER on Apr 18, 2004 7:18:06 GMT -5
Thats a thing nobody can answer Alex. You can only answer that if you have those strong beliefs. You can't imagine what it's like for those people because they have a completely different way of looking at things. From a complete different perspective. I know that if my internal bodyparts can be used to save someones life they can use it. I don't want them to use parts that would end up in a closed coffin funeral. Gotta keep my looks j/k
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