SudsyUncle®
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IRCX
Apr 13, 2004 7:10:22 GMT -5
Post by SudsyUncle® on Apr 13, 2004 7:10:22 GMT -5
As I read through all the old posts, i find it so funny how some ppl ramble on, and even argue their position, and have no flowering clue wtf they are talkin about! What MORON first came up with the idea that M$N is "a modified" IRCX? Who ever it was, should be tared, feathered, and exiled, based on stupidity alone! The only way that M$N could be concidered "modified" is if you are comparing now to what they first started with! In June of 1998, Miscro$oft released there intention to create "Extensions to the Internet Relay Chat Protocol (IRCX)". Yes, all the rest are just copies, ladies and gents. My personal belief is what keeps most on is same reason most Americans use the word "Cresent" when refering to an adjustable wrench, it was the first one and is still there, enduring time! LOL, that and the fact that Micro$oft owns the other ½ of the world that the tobacco companies dont!
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IRCX
Apr 13, 2004 23:00:44 GMT -5
Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 13, 2004 23:00:44 GMT -5
LOL i have no idea what you are on about....dont really care
but you are a fiesty one arent you ! [/i][/color]
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Haze
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IRCX
Apr 14, 2004 3:00:50 GMT -5
Post by Haze on Apr 14, 2004 3:00:50 GMT -5
Sudsy, do you mind if I ask where this has come from... any particular reason you've just fired this topic up?
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SudsyUncle®
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IRCX
Apr 15, 2004 22:49:38 GMT -5
Post by SudsyUncle® on Apr 15, 2004 22:49:38 GMT -5
Sorry if it seemed to come outta nowhere, i've been gone a while and just catchin up on old posts, and realizing the sad decline of what xT was when I first came onboard vs. how we look and sound now xT used to be known as the l33t of the l33t, and how smart do we sound not even knowin the basics?
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Ziggy
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IRCX
Apr 27, 2004 18:38:07 GMT -5
Post by Ziggy on Apr 27, 2004 18:38:07 GMT -5
MSN != IRCX MSN == MSN Although the MSN protocol is a heavily modified version of the IRCX extension to the RFC 1459 protocol... That's why you can use IRC clients (with modifications). If you disagree with the fact MSN's a heavily modified version of the extension to the RFC 1459 protocol, then you are in fact a moron. Most of the stuff IRCX has MSN has, but then again, IRCX has things MSN doesn't. I prefer IRCX myself, but that's probably because MSN was designed for (and works best with) their proprietary chat client. IRCX itself is not a single server or entity. It is a modification of the RFC 1459 (IRC) standard. You can't "copy" something that is a standard. If this were true, then IIS is a copy of Apache and Apache is a copy of the HTTP standard. MSN is loosely (VERY VERY loosely) IRCX. That's all that you can say. It's just easier to refer to it with their naming scheme (which, I finally figured out) br] IRCX would have been IRC3, so IRCVERS IRC3 == IRCX. IRC4 would have been MSN Chat 1.0 (2.0 was Comic Chat). IRC5 was MSN Chat 3.0 and 4.0. IRC6 was MSN Chat 4.1. IRC7 was MSN Chat 4.2 and 4.5 8.0. IRC8 is MSN Chat 4.5 9.0 and newer. IRC1 = RFC1459 and IRC2 = ircd-2.10.x and newer. To me, though, it's more logical to call MSN "MSN" than to call it "IRCX".
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SudsyUncle®
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IRCX
Apr 27, 2004 19:48:39 GMT -5
Post by SudsyUncle® on Apr 27, 2004 19:48:39 GMT -5
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Ziggy
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IRCX
May 16, 2004 23:12:30 GMT -5
Post by Ziggy on May 16, 2004 23:12:30 GMT -5
Microsoft wrote IRCX, not MSN.
MSN took Exchange 5.5, modded it for their purposes, and eventually came up with the IRC4 protocol (IRC3 is IRCX, since at that time, MS wanted IRCX to be the third version of IRCX). I think it's used in 1.0. IRC5 is used in 3.0. And so on. They kept adding to it. MSN is its own protocol which just so happens to share some commands with IRCX.
Claiming that IRCX and MSN are the same thing is stupid.
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Haze
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May 17, 2004 6:09:01 GMT -5
Post by Haze on May 17, 2004 6:09:01 GMT -5
Exactly. MSN doesnt even run on Exchange 5.5, it's their own custom (and top secret, apparently) server. Which must be the reason why staff from all over the world can still get super-fast access times on the network, regardless of location?
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SudsyUncle®
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IRCX
May 17, 2004 9:33:37 GMT -5
Post by SudsyUncle® on May 17, 2004 9:33:37 GMT -5
Microsoft wrote IRCX, not MSN. while i truely applaud you for all the stuff you have learned in the last coupla years, you still amaze me from time to time. did you ever stop to wonder wtf M$N stands for , M$N is, was and always will be a functional and integral part of Micro$oft! wanna double check that? Write to either HQ in Wasington, lol and youll firstly see its the same address on the envelope, and secondly get a responce from them telling you the same thing. And as far as their changes go, from what your saying, that means that you couldnt call ignition by the name of ignition anymore, simply due to the fact that its not the same as when you first started out! yes, that sounds like a buncha hooey! It's yours, and youre the one that defines what it is, same with M$N and IRCX, the protocol hasnt changed but nominally, granted their auth process on their servers have changed, but the core is still in place. Edit - Fixed your quote
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IRCX
May 17, 2004 12:26:05 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on May 17, 2004 12:26:05 GMT -5
hes right MSN stands for the Microsoft Network MS-N , before msn chat was around for all those people with a copy of windows 95 you will find an icon called the microsoft network installed, this service provided chat ,bullitin boards, usenet groups etc all in a pretty folder format, u could open the animals folder and find website stuff on animals or interest in them, msn was using their irc protocol back then when it was microsoft network for the same service so ive been told,
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IRCX
May 17, 2004 22:33:31 GMT -5
Post by Armstrong on May 17, 2004 22:33:31 GMT -5
Somebody told me they are using modified version IRCX server thats in MS Exchange. Why don't you put that question on msnchatteam group, maybe you will get the real answer.
It's "super-fast" because they have a million dollar hardware system.
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Haze
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IRCX
May 18, 2004 3:10:16 GMT -5
Post by Haze on May 18, 2004 3:10:16 GMT -5
Somebody told me they are using modified version IRCX server thats in MS Exchange. Why don't you put that question on msnchatteam group, maybe you will get the real answer. Good idea, although I'm afraid I'll either get it deleted by Guru or some "leeto kiddie" will act like he knows it all because he "has Sysops on Messenger"
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IRCX
May 18, 2004 4:16:35 GMT -5
Post by breaker on May 18, 2004 4:16:35 GMT -5
some "leeto kiddie" will act like he knows it all because he "has Sysops on Messenger" lmfao!
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Haze
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IRCX
May 18, 2004 14:29:43 GMT -5
Post by Haze on May 18, 2004 14:29:43 GMT -5
Edit - dont ever kiss me again!
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IRCX
May 18, 2004 15:06:36 GMT -5
Post by Armstrong on May 18, 2004 15:06:36 GMT -5
I don't see anything wrong with your question, you only want to know why it is so "super-fast." Most likely Guru will give you the most reasonable answer. In my opinion, if you run the latest MS IRCX server, the main speed difference, compared to MSN, will be due to the hardware.
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