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Post by Alexander on Apr 20, 2004 10:58:06 GMT -5
its a medial term for attention seeker, thats all it is, both mean the same thing more or less.
ADD - attention seeker ADHD - bigger attention seeker
so basically
ADD - alex ADHD - loon ADHDADHDADHDAHDHADHADHAHD - Pashyfarmer far from it fishgutts , im a very conservative person in real life, comes from being bullied as a kid, u loose your trust in much of the world
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 20, 2004 11:43:56 GMT -5
LOL ! ! ! good one fishguts, you DH [/i][/color]
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Post by LoVeDoCtOrCaSa on Apr 20, 2004 16:12:59 GMT -5
ADHD = All Day Hard Drugs
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Post by KingpinX on Apr 22, 2004 0:12:15 GMT -5
is it me or does it seem to be a pattern if being bullied when you where younger from the programmers or otherz.....never was bullied feels left out
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 22, 2004 3:08:53 GMT -5
dagger said i am a bully..
i will bully you if you want
*holds kings head in the toilet bowl and flushes*
LOL
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Post by KingpinX on Apr 22, 2004 13:11:23 GMT -5
kool a pepper mint flavor...lmao! j/k irl i'd be d**ned to be punked out by anyone. never should let yourself think you can't win that will flower cha up the most. if they are bigger there is always weapons around everywhere...penicl = shank a package of 1$ penny or nickle roll in ur hand give su better grip and u punch harder ;D
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Post by Ohio on Apr 23, 2004 12:27:32 GMT -5
I have known several kids with so called "AD[H]D". Only one, I considered to be valid. Most were simple cases of kid makes to much noise and wants to actually do something other than sit on his a** and watch TV. To much has it been a case of
"Hey wait, my kid won't sit in front of the TV like a vegetable so the TV can raise them. Must be something wrong. Oooh, I know, Its AD[H]D. Time to get some pills. Ah, there we go, vegetative state, now I can have some more me time."
And all of them were children of avid marijuana users. What does that tell you? Its rubbish is what it is.
Now to address alex. Alex, what do they give kids in the way of medication? Thats right, a mind altering drug. So is not possible and probable that these mind altering drugs could alter the mind to form other mental disorders? Yes it is. Would the medical field ever admit to such things? abosolutely not. Why? Because then doctors would actually have to try and diagnose patients and treat them instead of just medicating the hell out of them and taking that $15,000 hawaiian vacation courtesy of Phizer. Oh, Did you forget about that? Yes, doctors get kickbacks and incentives from drug companies for the prescriptions they write. Thats way when your child has a mild ear infection that a bit of amoxicilian would cure in a couple days at a cost of $7 to you, they get prescribed some never before heard of, brand new to the market, super antibiotic that causes your child to get a rash, does not help his ear infection, and costs you $70. Because by god your doctor wants the all expense paid vacation, or that Bloomingdales gift certificate. Same way with all the physc drugs, more you prescribe, bigger the kick backs.
Want to know how easy it is, anyone can be written a prescription for Wellbutrin, or Paxil, or Zoloft. Doctors now give that out like Candy. "Why have stress, why live life like a normal person, we can take it all away with a little pill". Creating an entire society of dependent users and residual income. But they all seem to forget something. Evolution. Humans will begin to adapt, and genetically change to these mind altering substances. What will this do to the future of the human race? Can't be good.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 23, 2004 15:28:58 GMT -5
I have known several kids with so called "AD[H]D". Only one, I considered to be valid. Most were simple cases of kid makes to much noise and wants to actually do something other than sit on his a** and watch TV. To much has it been a case of "Hey wait, my kid won't sit in front of the TV like a vegetable so the TV can raise them. Must be something wrong. Oooh, I know, Its AD[H]D. Time to get some pills. Ah, there we go, vegetative state, now I can have some more me time." And all of them were children of avid marijuana users. What does that tell you? Its rubbish is what it is. Now to address alex. Alex, what do they give kids in the way of medication? Thats right, a mind altering drug. So is not possible and probable that these mind altering drugs could alter the mind to form other mental disorders? Yes it is. Would the medical field ever admit to such things? abosolutely not. Why? Because then doctors would actually have to try and diagnose patients and treat them instead of just medicating the hell out of them and taking that $15,000 hawaiian vacation courtesy of Phizer. Oh, Did you forget about that? Yes, doctors get kickbacks and incentives from drug companies for the prescriptions they write. Thats way when your child has a mild ear infection that a bit of amoxicilian would cure in a couple days at a cost of $7 to you, they get prescribed some never before heard of, brand new to the market, super antibiotic that causes your child to get a rash, does not help his ear infection, and costs you $70. Because by god your doctor wants the all expense paid vacation, or that Bloomingdales gift certificate. Same way with all the physc drugs, more you prescribe, bigger the kick backs. Want to know how easy it is, anyone can be written a prescription for Wellbutrin, or Paxil, or Zoloft. Doctors now give that out like Candy. "Why have stress, why live life like a normal person, we can take it all away with a little pill". Creating an entire society of dependent users and residual income. But they all seem to forget something. Evolution. Humans will begin to adapt, and genetically change to these mind altering substances. What will this do to the future of the human race? Can't be good. sounds like someones had a bad experience with the health service, in the uk we have strict drug control, its very had to buy these kinda stuff in the uk, lol the pharmacists test for side effects, saying theres a comspiracy by the health authorities is stupid considering the doctors dont have any undertaking in the production of the medication or the sale of it, the doctors make no money out of perscribing medicene plus they dont give out antibiotics here there and everywhere because long term use of them makes them ineffective. ohio i seriously suggest you stop being such a fox mulder and thinking the whole world is one big conspiracy the only people who make such accusations normally end up themselves developing things such as skizophrenia , no offence intended, but i dont hounestly believe anything you said as someone training into healthcare and i doubt if ozzy or any other health professional here would agree either just my opinion though...
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Post by Ohio on Apr 23, 2004 16:26:11 GMT -5
Of course your won't agree, your part of the system. You may have control in the UK, but in the US, prescription medicine is big business. The drug companies can not actually pay doctors for prescribing certian medications, but the can offer incentive programs and gifts. And it happens everyday Alex, it is a fact, not a conspiracy theory. It has been documented by News organizations such as US New, 60 minutes, 20/20 and others.
You want to blind yourself to reality and believe everything some "professional" (what a joke) tells you that is fine Alex, but to spew the rosygarden you do in these debates because your a healthcare "trainee" is quite sickening. To relate theory as fact, is disturbing. And for your information, the majority of Physcology teaching is based on Theory. See in Science, there is Theory and Law(fact). Law is proven with no exceptions, theory is a firm beleif based on controled studies yet can not be proven as law. So since most Psychological Theorys contain exceptions. Exceptions to a rule keep it from becoming Law or Fact. Instead they call it "normal" or "average", but that becomes more a statistical discussion. So before you reply with your new found knowledge, gain some actual facts to back it up.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 23, 2004 16:40:58 GMT -5
nothing is fact, nothing can be 100% proven, my current knowledge is based on what i have learned, there is no such thing as fact, nothing in this world can be 100%
i NEVER say anything like that, if you look at the above statment i said its my opinion, if you think my opinion is sickening then mabie you could do me the favour of keeping that statment to yourself, i dont like people manipulating what i say and spitting it back in my face.
what remains is that ADHD IS a very real condition, the fact that people tend to blame lasyness on it is something different, the debate was weather the condition exists, not to bash the medical industry.
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Post by tek on Apr 23, 2004 16:53:43 GMT -5
my little brother has slight ADHD and severe emotional stress disorders...all they give him is something for the ADHD - rittalin or something? to slow his brain down. Wouldn't this just make any severe case involving mental problems more adgetated? you may be able to slow ur brain down, but you cant get rid of emotional stress like that (imo). I think what ohio says is the probably 99.9% all right. :\
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Post by Alexander on Apr 23, 2004 16:59:35 GMT -5
tek you wouldnt give ADHD medication for just any mental illness
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Post by tek on Apr 23, 2004 17:02:39 GMT -5
yes i know that, what i was trying to say was why are they giving him ADHD medicine when he has only a very minor ADHD and not anything for the emotional distress
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Post by Alexander on Apr 23, 2004 17:23:25 GMT -5
well a psychologist would have to be very sure he has the condition before he would be given it
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Post by dagger on Apr 23, 2004 19:59:16 GMT -5
i reckon im lost
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