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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 18, 2004 2:00:40 GMT -5
lotsa ppl talk about these disorders quite a bit, some often think it's a crock and others place quite a bit of importance on them as being serious disorders.
for those who dont know..
ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder
ADHD = Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
what do you think ? do you think these disorders have always been around in past decades, or is it just a name to give unruly kids who some may say need a good kick up the backside ??
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Post by overdose on Apr 18, 2004 2:12:59 GMT -5
The names have been around for ages. It's alot nicer to say that a kid has ADD then to say he/she is a skitz/psycho, when you say that to a kid, be sure they will hit you lol
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Post by Cope on Apr 18, 2004 2:15:47 GMT -5
Bullsh*t, just another reason to drug your kids up so they stop bothering you.
"The kids who eat too many marbles dont grow up to have children of their own"
I prefer to let nature run its course.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 18, 2004 5:41:47 GMT -5
Bullsh*t, just another reason to drug your kids up so they stop bothering you. "The kids who eat too many marbles dont grow up to have children of their own" I prefer to let nature run its course. cope, their both valid conditions, if you leave them with these conditions untreated your child can develop skitzophrenia, allowing a mental condition to just happen in your kid even when the kid will in worse cases end up destroying your house, heck even burning it down, and smacking them wont help in any way shape or form, they have no control over it, if left untreated you deserve to be smacked for being stupid enough to refuse treatment for it, the kids have no control over it, ive seen cases of it and the kids just cant do anything about it and it makes them suffer because they feel useless because they cant control themselves properly. you leave it untreated you will ruin their life and it will be your fault, a lot of cases with the condition end up failing their school exams due to lack of concentration, inability to work properly etc, so let nature run its course and ruin their life if you wish  |
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Post by Cope on Apr 18, 2004 6:02:11 GMT -5
To a lot of folks surprise, and against most things I love(big business) this is one I dont agree with. I like science, but I also disagree with it on many levels. This being one. It was created to make big companies money. Drug companies make billions(yeah not mill-, bill-) of dollars every year from it. I usually support things that make the rich richer, because working hard for a living in most cases is something i will always back. however. ADD is a joke. I had friends who had ADD. Some who took medicide some who didnt. Only difference between them, the one that took drugs is no relies on everything(people, money, drugs, whatever) to make him happy. Speaking from my own personal experience... yes I was told I had ADD. Just because I though my teacher was a total diprosygarden and did not deserve my attention. My parents and I decided to(yeah I didnt have a lot of say, but it did count) not go for the drug use. Skip forward a couple years, turns out the reason I had "low concentration levels" was because I didnt enjoy the mindless crap they teach in a lot of public schools. Ended up taking classes for "smart kids", ya know. the ones who can move objects with their minds(lol not really, but Matrix is on TV  ) Once you find something that can grab their attention they turn out fine. Did I fail tests? umm yeah, but had not a thing to do with me not being loaded full of ritalin. I am sure that in some cases it can not be cured without medicine. Buddy of mine works in "Child Care for those Less fortunate", because they cant say "he works with the retarded kids" anymore. Anyways. Some of those kids, that cant think for themselves... some have to go to medicine. In those cases I would agree with some sort of medical involvement. But with most of the legal drugs out, they are abused. Its a good way to keep your kids that dont "sit down and shut the f*ck up" to stop, slow down, and do nothing. ... this is getting long..... Found a cool link www.nida.nih.gov/Infofax/ritalin.htmlTalks about the pros and cons of the drug. Ritalin, very common. Which is odd. The ONE of my friends who did take drugs for his problem is the drunk alcoholic. heh. |
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Post by mo0 on Apr 18, 2004 6:53:22 GMT -5
one of the paeditritions (spelling?) at the hospital my mum works at said that ADD and ADHD are just the lastest excuses for bad behavior and poor parenting. There are however legitimate cases, but others are just rubbish  |
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Post by GAME-OVER on Apr 18, 2004 7:12:40 GMT -5
Suddenly giving a name to a kids annoying/busy/non-listening behaviour.
Why is it that it's so popular nowadays? Like been said before... ofcourse there are a few cases that really need attention but that's always been like that.
It's more a thing of not being able to handle your kid and having an excuse for it.
It's a hype and it's sad.
What did you get for Christmas..? I got ADHD kewl hu?
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Post by Dangermouse on Apr 18, 2004 14:45:55 GMT -5
one of the paeditritions (spelling?) at the hospital my mum works at said that ADD and ADHD are just the lastest excuses for bad behavior and poor parenting. There are however legitimate cases, but others are just rubbish Agree. What could be the problem is that some mothers spend too/so much time with their kids when they are young, smother them and never let them do anything on their own, and when they grow up a bit more the mother may decide to go back to work, and have less attention for the child, thus AD[H]D. |
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Post by KingpinX on Apr 18, 2004 16:42:59 GMT -5
i think its just kids that need a good a** kickin, like my step bro he always blaimed he's add until i kicked he's a** for acting like he was retarded all the time. then he became normal...never acted as if he had addd and he never took he's pills the doc gave him.
if ur kids is a flower tard kid who never helps or listens to you even if you are nice in talking to them about helping u to do simple jobs around the house.....as like this such
8-10 = take out trash once a day "not hard"
11-18 = cut yard "not hard"
10-18= clean room "not hard"
13-18= clean up behind them selfs..."not hard"
if you kid just sits around being as a** and eating and not doing rosygarden and when you ask him or her to do something they get ticky and still dont do rosygarden....then i do believe they need a a** kickin. 8-13 = belt....`14-18 = punch or with a wooden paddle.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 18, 2004 23:08:27 GMT -5
one of the paeditritions (spelling?) at the hospital my mum works at said that ADD and ADHD are just the lastest excuses for bad behavior and poor parenting. There are however legitimate cases, but others are just rubbish the condition is a valid thing the only problem with it is lasy parents are trying to use it as an excuse not to take any action, kingpin if you did that to your kids i would hope social services would be round your house  |
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Post by KingpinX on Apr 19, 2004 9:22:02 GMT -5
lol....i'm to of a dog to hit kids if i do have any. because thats how i learned....my dad is old school respect is everything.
but alex american kids are alot different....like 40% of all americans and kids are FAT they get fat because they do rosygarden just sit there never trying to do anything.....and others get ticky about asking them to help with small things around house.
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Post by Alexander on Apr 19, 2004 9:30:59 GMT -5
so? aint no reason to hit a kid, adults dont need respect from kids, kids need a reason to respect adults, hitting them aint gunna make the kids respect them, more like fear them or hate them |
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Apr 20, 2004 4:12:50 GMT -5
i think clearly ADD and ADHD are real disorders, i dont know tho whether they are a result of genetics, environment or a bit of both.
i have read lotsa articles about there being chemical imbalances in the brain etc etc but just as many if not more articles to refute those facts. but i do have some very good friends who suffer with ADD and it's quite clear that they have troubles with concentration etc..
it's no real surprise that a high percentage of kids who are diagnosed are from low socio-economic families. too many kids dont have two parents and supportive family units any more. a lot of kids are from single parent families and due to circumstances the single parent has to spend a lot of time working and is prolly stuffed at the end of the day, sometimes too much to be able to spend the time an unruly kid would need spent on him/her.
i have seen too many kids get diagnosed without much effort being taken by doctors. it seems to me to be a case of... my kid's a nightmare...i need help ! the reply to that is writing out a prescription.
i believe putting kids on dexiamphetamines is a final resort and shouldnt be happening unless extreme cases of ADD and ADHD are apparent and substantiated with good medical testing and also counselling.
sometimes i wonder who really needs the drugs - parent or child. i know of a lot of parents who are taking their kids dexies cos they are much cheaper than speed. i've had dexies myself i admit.
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Post by dagger on Apr 20, 2004 6:31:31 GMT -5
i reckon add is not a real disorde but you can make a child think it is by telling them they have it and they believe they can go skits because a parent wont accept their child is undisciplined but i also believe hitting is wrong. a parent should give the respect they want from their child so if they hook their child i would get up and punch him back.
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Post by Fisher on Apr 20, 2004 8:50:36 GMT -5
its a medial term for attention seeker, thats all it is, both mean the same thing more or less.
ADD - attention seeker
ADHD - bigger attention seeker
so basically
ADD - alex
ADHD - loon
ADHDADHDADHDAHDHADHADHAHD - Pashyfarmer
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) Once you find something that can grab their attention they turn out fine. Did I fail tests? umm yeah, but had not a thing to do with me not being loaded full of ritalin.
