Tigarius
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Post by Tigarius on Dec 8, 2003 15:50:42 GMT -5
hey need help with a song
all i know its a country type song, and the chorus goes like this
you dont tug on supermans cape you dont spit into the wind <-- thats only part of it.
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Post by z00ey on Dec 8, 2003 20:03:32 GMT -5
i have no clue but do me a favour and change your signature.. ..it s far away from beeing funny but 100% racism atually :\
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Post by overdose on Dec 8, 2003 20:11:17 GMT -5
Josh that's the 2nd time someone's complained about your sig
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Post by Draconis on Dec 8, 2003 22:02:02 GMT -5
www.yimpan.com/Songsite/Lyric/lyric2text.asp?sid=2189And the sig is taken from Adam Sandler's song, "The Chanukah Song". Listening to the complete song, it's actually meant as a compliment. Of course, in these "PC" days, someone is always bound to get p*ssed off by something... everyone always takes things way to seriously.
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Post by Tigarius on Dec 9, 2003 12:12:53 GMT -5
Exactly Draco, they just need to mellow out, idiots . Cheers draco
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Post by z00ey on Dec 9, 2003 12:48:31 GMT -5
..i don t care how it is meant. ..and even because we are in the middle of those "PC" days it s so d**n important to talk about sources when you quote out of this big pile of data.
..and again.. i just don t care how it s meant, lol... ..and i doubt that you thought for just a second about what you typed , sorry.. i could post a few sentences here and then i tell you how i mean it (well not here of course, it seems to be the readers job to care for sources and intentions of the writer...).
...and even if i knew that song it still would be ripped out of context and highly missunderstandable.
this is more a static thing, no chance to chat about immediatly.. ..point is and was: how it s meant doesn t matter, no chance to explain it right when someone reads it.. ..and you can t expect that everyone knows a certain song.
(i am actually interested in the lyrics of the song now, just because i wonder how it can be a compliment, lol.. ..cause even if it s "meant to be one" , songwriters are pretty dumb too sometimes.)
ps.. ..yes, i am very sensitive when it comes to racism , sorry.
pps.. ..tig, i mentioned in another post that i was sure that you did not mean it like i read it, just to let you know.
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Post by Draconis on Dec 9, 2003 13:14:00 GMT -5
The proper terminology you would be looking for z00ey is not racist (or racism) but faith bashing. "Jew" is shorthand for Jewish... a faith... much like Pagan, Wiccan, Christian, Calvanism, and so on goes the list. A Calvanist is not a race... neither is a Pagan... so why would a Jew? And also, if you can explain to me how stating that someone would be very good looking can be taken as a form of faith bashing, I would love to hear it. Lets look at it this way... I find DMQ's sig to be extremely rude. Threatening other users shouldn't be allowed. Will a change be forced? No, probably not, because I also have enough common sense to realize that the threat in her sig means nothing. I could say that any sig mentioning the server address "xt.isyourgod.com" is offenisve, because it attacks my faith (claiming that xt is a more powerful God than my Diety). Do I raise a fuss over it? Does anyone else? No... and why? Because it's not something worth being bothered over. Of course, not that it matters at all... as I said before, everyone these days gets ticked off and offended by something...
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Post by Fisher on Dec 9, 2003 13:19:12 GMT -5
Homer:
jungle bells, jingle bells, jungle all the way, ohh wat fun it is ro ride and santa claus is colorful
haha, couldnt resist postin it:p
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Post by Relent_ on Dec 9, 2003 13:19:56 GMT -5
i wonder, if this quote was about a white guy, would anything be said..i think not.
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Post by z00ey on Dec 9, 2003 13:24:01 GMT -5
oh.. ..sorry, it s a terminology problem i see.. ..let me exaplin that in german we call both racism (just because the act of faith bashing is nothing else but seeing a religion as a race and bash on it i think).
the offensive part is just that the religious part is mentioned at all (without any reason - if you don t know the song).
i could easily say (if i thought so) : paul newman is a dog. and i could easily say: paul newman is a half jewish dog.
do you notice the difference ?
(so question would be: why mention the religion at all ?) (and what the hell is a "half-jewish" person anyway.. ..the phrase itself implies thoughts about "breeding" and race-culture thinking (pure, clean races and blahsh|t like that...))
..not that i necessarily read it like that, i m just pointing out how it could easily be read btw.
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Post by z00ey on Dec 9, 2003 13:26:37 GMT -5
relent_ ..i don t even know who that guy is, neither do i know anything about the color of his skin, which i don t care for anyway.
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Post by .•´¯`•þasђγ•._.•´ on Dec 9, 2003 22:16:12 GMT -5
relent.....most jewish ppl are white
i think what z00ey is saying is this.....
everyone from this forum is from all walks of life and in saying that what is offensive to some, may not be to others. some things can be taken badly, especially if context is not known.
it's better to err on the side of caution and think about any comments that could be taken badly from statements or comments in your siggys and leave them out altogether
unless of course you MEAN it to be offensive, thats another story altogether
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Post by Tigarius on Dec 10, 2003 11:19:58 GMT -5
IT was a misunderstanding .
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Post by z00ey on Dec 10, 2003 15:54:05 GMT -5
mainly it was a good example for bad quoting, lol ;p
note: quoting, i don t wanna talk about the quote itself again.
just _another_ very simple and dumb examplebr] "bankers are evil" "most bankers in blahblah-city are jewish"
two quotes who are (each on its own) not bad or anything.. ..but it would be more than just bad style to put them both in one signature
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