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Post by Alexander on Jun 29, 2003 21:12:33 GMT -5
ive just heard RIAA are going to sue people who share MP3s and i wanna know what you think about it and how you think its going to affect users of software such as bearshare and kazaa and how different countries, and users can prevent a lawsuit on their hands, im sure many people here do download files and would like the info, me included  |
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Post by z00ey on Jun 29, 2003 21:44:37 GMT -5
not my business, i don t use mp3 anyway.. ..just want to note that basically nothing has changed, has always been similar, just the media is different (in germany at least it has been same for ages with audio/video tapes.. ..personal use only, else has always been illegal).
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Post by Toni on Jun 29, 2003 21:45:52 GMT -5
well it's already started happening......... a few months ago there were like 5 college students that got lawsuits against them from sharing mp3's over thier dorm connections....... they were getting sued by the record companys not in trouble with thier colleges as far as i know
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Post by w0rd on Jun 30, 2003 4:30:13 GMT -5
If you think bout it, how many people use file sharing apps? I have around 700 mp3's, but I'm not worried about the law because they'd have to go after the other however-many-other people who use Kazaa / Morpheus etc. What concerns me is something I read on this subject.. apparently the companies have all your details, so know you do it? |
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Post by Mystical on Jun 30, 2003 5:35:23 GMT -5
I think that ppl will still download mp3's just as much but there are surely some ppl who will stop doing it...
The law will not affect me so much because i hardly download mp3's anymore....
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Post by Toni on Jun 30, 2003 5:51:32 GMT -5
well this is my view........
back in the day they never came and arrested anyone for coping songs from cassettes or the radio onto other cassettes........
Would they come arrest me if i lent my cd's to my friend? no.......
personally i think it's alot of rubbish........ i mean concert ticket prices are though the freakin roof.... it's not as if bands are becoming starving artists or anything..... in fact i buy more cd's after i have downloaded music becouse i don't want to buy cd's that i'll hate........ so in the past i wouldn't buy very many at all..... and even though i don't spend alot of money on them now i do spend more on cd's becouse i go online, download the mp3's..... realize i like the album and buy it usually becouse the album is way better quality and sometimes has extras
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Post by Alexander on Jun 30, 2003 8:58:10 GMT -5
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Post by Mystical on Jun 30, 2003 11:56:20 GMT -5
Well i guess im also safe then ;D Thx for telling us  |
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Post by z00ey on Jun 30, 2003 12:21:01 GMT -5
i think they should allow it too.. (so sick of eggheads like metallica: "boohoo, we are poor boys and you stealing our money" ://)
..but just to see the other site (someone has to play the devils advocat, eh ? ,lol) br]
"back in the day they never came and arrested anyone for coping songs from cassettes or the radio onto other cassettes........"
same today.. ..as long as you don t masscopy and use them for other orurposes than just listening to it yourself.
"Would they come arrest me if i lent my cd's to my friend? no...."
you wouldn t be arrested if you lent a file to your friend too.. ..but actually mostly ppl make copies and give them away.. ..so called file sharing is not really sharing, it duplicating.
"in fact i buy more cd's after i have downloaded music becouse i don't want to buy cd's that i'll hate........ "
i don t think ppl like you are the aim.. ..i read baout once in a week about an action from police when they burn hundredthousands CDs of a record that hasn t even been published officialy.. ..like 99% perfect, mostly you ll recognize it one year later when the crappy material starts bugging.. ..so at least it could be seen as protection for ppl who actually spend money for CDs and for the musicians.
well.. CDs suck anyway =] lol.. ..just wanted to mention some points.
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Post by Draconis on Jun 30, 2003 12:40:15 GMT -5
On the flipside of things, I've chatted with a few artists (Paul McCoy of 12 Stones, and Amy Lee of Evanescence), and jokingly commented on how Paul should buy his parents a new computer. His respose kind of covered the "artists making loads of cash" deal. "I'd really love to, but we don't actually make that much off these tours, after they factor in the expenses". From what we were discussing, the artists don't normally make a huge profit off CD sales either... unlss stated otherwise in the contract, most of the money goes to expenses, advertising, and the record company and various other staff (Booking Agents, Producers, Studio staff, and the like). One also has to keep in mind that the music is still the property of the band, even after purchase of the CD. So think of it this way... you own several TVs (say, one in the living room, one in the "rec" room, one in the bedroom). Your neighbour just moved out on his own, and has no TV. He decides to help himself to one of yours, since you already have lots. Fair? Same deal with Artists... they just happened to choose a career that brings in good money sometimes... just because they have that money doesn't give others the right to steal their music.  The best legal way to obtain MP3s is to go to the artist's website... often, they will release "teaser" MP3s prior to a CD release so you can get a listen in on a song or two... Also, you can sometimes contact the webmaster for said band's site and ask them what the band's policy is on MP3 sharing... occasionally, they will state that the band supports trading of music (yes, it really does happen). If you have the green light for that band, go ahead, because there is a good chance you are clear of reprecussions from the Music Label. Another option that works really well for me is to hit up the lead singer's parents for music. But not everyone will have that option available. |
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Post by Ohio on Jun 30, 2003 12:53:27 GMT -5
Offspring, perfect example of what most bands think of file sharing. Most of the bands don't care. Why? because the got hosed on their contract, they make very little money off CD sales, they no longer own rights to their music, and they get tired of watching record companies get rich off o their backs and they get next to nothing. You will easily find several top name artists that feel this way. Offspring was dropped by their label for releasing new music on napster. RIAA is on a big kick since they won against napster. But they are soon going to get knocked back down. US govt knows who does the voting and it is not RIAA, it is the guy swapping MP3's. Its already a huge racket anyway and only getting worse. I see change on the horizon.
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Post by Alexander on Jul 1, 2003 22:30:02 GMT -5
even so... im in the uk, they cant touch me, ner ner ner, lol
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Post by mcloone on Jul 2, 2003 13:16:25 GMT -5
Nor me  But.. Draconis I love you, lol thats aload of shít  |
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Post by Draconis on Jul 2, 2003 15:16:39 GMT -5
Oh come on now mcloone... are you daying that after all these months on both boards, you didn't notice how much I ramble on and drag off topic?
Its like this one time when I was a host on MSN.. this one kid came in to one of the rooms I was hosting in... I was a host for Peers back then, and kind of carried a bit of a reputation in the old #20s rooms... anyway......................
No, really. What I typed is true. Often, the band will not make much money off a CD sale anyway... so even like what also posted, often a band will allow the sharing in retaliation for getting screwed in the contract... if you check into it, you can usually find loopholes. but to just download beause you want it, or because the band makes lots of money... that's missing the point behind it all.
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Post by Ohio on Jul 3, 2003 10:00:23 GMT -5
RIAA is a lobbying group for the record companies. That means they wine and dine legislators to get laws made in their favor. In no way does RIAA care about the welfare or interests of the Artists. Their sole purpose is the record company.
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