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Post by ρєтэ on May 22, 2003 13:56:53 GMT -5
Dont know what you think about some who has never even seen wot eva this c++ is created in but id like to learn it. Seeing as im soon to be going into a programming and development course in college, i maybe a lil taste of what its about could help me... like what i will need, tutorials books or is that just a silly request  |
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Post by z00ey on May 22, 2003 14:47:40 GMT -5
nope, not silly at all.. ..but i have to say that i learned all from books (maybe it s because i m not natural born english ;D lol).. ..so if you are english then just do a simple search with google to start.. ..and feel free to ask anything you might not understand here (that s what this section is for  ..
..just a stupid advice, lol: don t try to write an operating system after you read the first tutorial.. ..all those "stupid" basics about vars and functions etc really make sense and be sure that you will need all this stuff later on 
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Post by Trad on May 22, 2003 15:31:42 GMT -5
you lie! i could write an Operating System after my first "vars and functions" tutorial. /me heheh not. z00ey is right. just grip the concepts first, write the trickyest thing you can with what you know and move on AND KEEP A NOTES FILE. honetly, you wont get ANYWHERE without a notes file, i had one i used for like 2 months. It got too big, now i have a Notes directory about 30 files. and when something is playing on your head and you forgot how to do something, you go back and read, and it sticks in your head. So read, summerise, and write about it. And ask as many questions as you like, dont be ashamed if you think theyre dumb, you dont get anywhere without asking questions. Im glad you chose the C++ path  |
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Post by ρєтэ on May 24, 2003 4:35:06 GMT -5
ok ive come across my 1st herdle if you will, which compiler is the Best/Efficient to use at early stages?
was given a choice between Borland C++ , Microsoft Visual C++ , Watcom C/386 and DJGPP.
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Post by Trad on May 24, 2003 15:46:32 GMT -5
Microsoft Visual C++
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Post by z00ey on May 24, 2003 21:38:52 GMT -5
i vote for borland c++ command line tools 
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Post by Trad on May 25, 2003 7:08:08 GMT -5
but MSVC++ is more user-friendly
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Post by Fisher on Jun 1, 2003 16:48:45 GMT -5
you really narrowd his choise lol |
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Post by Lazer on Jun 7, 2003 11:07:13 GMT -5
ohhh fisher u messed it up u should ov sed something else  lol |
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Post by Trad on Jun 7, 2003 17:29:13 GMT -5
huh????????
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Post by Ender on Jun 8, 2003 11:30:55 GMT -5
Vote #2 = Borland Command Line Compiler. Programming was never meant to be user-friendly, unless you made the program yourself =p . Ask f00k one of these days =p
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Post by Trad on Jun 8, 2003 11:56:24 GMT -5
so?
If it wasnt meant to be user-friendly, and then MSVC++ IS user-friendly, then i think it does make it better. whatever programming was 'meant' to be that doesnt matter, it is what it is.
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Post by Ender on Jun 8, 2003 15:39:45 GMT -5
MSVC++ is a little too "user-friendly" IMO. But that's because I've been dealing with command line compilers for a while as well. I tend to dislike anything "Visual-blah" because of the fact that it take the challenge of making a complicated GUI sometimes. It's really personal preferences, but my vote was for Borland. You didn't listen about MFC, but you finally realized it when you searched around about it as well. You'll be a great coder one day =p
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Post by Trad on Jun 9, 2003 5:42:16 GMT -5
lol, thank you.
I cant contemplate how you can imagine that people are better coders than others cos they use command line, all i do is open MSVC++, there is a blank file, i open MSDN web page, and i write code, like i want it, and occasionaly look up a syntax.
I dont use MFC, i dont *like* using resources, but the only ones i will use are ones for a cursor or an icon, which is one line of code, but then i started using LoadImage().
So, i really dont understand what compiler differences mean? at the end of the day, you type in code to make a program. what compiler you do that in is irrelivant IMO.
/me throws this post at David and runs away giggling.
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Post by Ender on Jun 9, 2003 6:50:06 GMT -5
It doesn't really make you a better coder, just that you have all the unnecessary things out of the way. With something like MSVC++ you have a whole lot more than what you would with a command line compiler. It's like having a job at work (here's comes one of my odd-ball analogies) :
- You start out as a Janitor (Command Line)
- You start out as a Teacher's Helper (MSVC++)
- You upgrade to being a Supervisor (Command Line to making your own "GUI" wrapped around the command line compiler)
- You upgrade to being a Teacher (Experienced MSVC++ User)
Don't mind if that doesn't make sense, I'm sick as a dog and I don't know who I am these days.
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